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Alltid becomes a part of Hattrick!
HT-Weird_ed | 15.09.08
When we released version 2 of our amazing Firefox extension, it was a huge eye-opener for the entire Hattrick community. It really showed that it was possible to have an incredible amount of stats within Hattrick, without complicating the game or the navigation.
It didn’t take long for Hattrick to notice. And the combination of the extension, the advanced functionality and the amount of data we’ve collected at Alltid has really captured the attention of Hattrick.
So today I’m very excited to announce that Alltid will soon become an official part of Hattrick!
Over the next six months I will work on implementing the Alltid functionality directly into Hattrick, with no more need for specific browsers or extensions! This means even more stats, with better integration, and more accuracy!
Not surprisingly, I’ve always felt like Hattrick needed a lot more stats, and it’s great to be given the opportunity to work on this. I have high hopes that this will turn out great for the Hattrick community. And for those of you who already enjoy Alltid in its current form – you are really going to enjoy the things we will come up with during and after this transition!
Unfortunately as the Alltid site will disappear over time, the Plus Memberships will disappear with it. Hattrick has agreed to compensate all of the current Plus members with a 6 month HT supporter option once we’ve finished the transition. I think this is a pretty good deal, and I hope it’s an acceptable solution for all of you.
I will post more details on how the transition will take place in the coming weeks, so stay tuned. For the next 3-6 months, the Alltid site should stay the same though.
I hope you are all as excited as I am over this!
Please let us know what you think about this by adding your comment below.
Well done! This is great news, I hope you get time to make a cool version of maptrick as part of Hattrick.org as well at some point :-)
This is really great news! Well done, congratulations and good luck with your development work within the Hattrick team!
Thanks everyone, it’s gonna be great :)
@juergen, Yes! As soon as the transition is done (more about this later), all alltid supporters will get 6 months of HT supporter added automatically – without cost.
(Sep 15, 09:31 AM)
Really good job man! I’m glad the HT-guys finally realized what a great extra-value the alltid-stats are. Wish you all the best for the next few months and for the implementation of alltid into hattrick.
(Sep 15, 09:35 AM)
Congrats. It is the natural progression of hard work and well thought of project. I take my hat off.
(Sep 15, 09:41 AM)
This is a major recognition of your tremendous work by the HTs. Congrats.
However, except if this integration allows new stats, i fail to see any advantage. However having Alltid integrated into HT means it will follow HT developpment processes (which i found very worrying).
Anyway, it’s good news for you and your work, i’m not sure it will be the same for us (customers).
(Sep 15, 09:44 AM)
generally, this is good news but that also means we won’t see new features such as Cup Manager or even famous Alltid Cups…
(Sep 15, 09:50 AM)
Congratulations, man ;)
No doubt, this is one of the better decissions HTs have taken ever. I’m really glad you become a “deeper” part of Hattrick :D
PS: Go to CHPP conference, and bring a champagne bottle with you :D
@mellon-charles, I don’t think you have to worry too much. There is no reason why it should get worse. It will still be me doing this, except now I’ll have full access to all the data in Hattrick, and I’ll even get payed for doing it.
I will be shocked if this turns out to be a bad thing for the customers!
(Sep 15, 10:01 AM)
very nice advancement, but I always liked alltid separated cause we were a community apart from HT. I enjoyed being supporter of this great tool which helped me at my beginning of my Ht career. Anyway if you decided to join HT, there is nothing much to say.
but the maptrick integration will be on HT or that will be a separate thing?
(Sep 15, 10:02 AM)
You guys really did a fanteastic work on this page, so you deserv to get “promoted” for it.
I can say that, using Alltid makes Hattrick much more fun,
Thank you again, and wish you the best.
Sorry to say but its only good news for you and the people who are HT supporter!
All the others will have to pay ( buy HT Supporter) in a few month to get all the infos we get right now for free. :-(
@weird_ed: ok you will still be in charge (that is a good point), but will you have the freedom to do it your way like today according to CHPP limitations (either in term of content or timing) ?
You have been showing us the quality of your work for years now. I do not have the same opinion as far as HT is concerned.
I’m just being pickish, we’ll see. I wish you all the best in this big adventure (you might need it :o)
Thanks again for your brilliant work !
(Sep 15, 10:26 AM)
Congrats! Nice to see competence work it’s way into HT. Well done! The only thing that is a bit sad is that it is no longer possible to identify oneself as an exclusive Alltid-supporter. ;)
(Sep 15, 10:26 AM)
will we loose the better ht-live functionallity and the session manager?
(Sep 15, 10:28 AM)
@ol-pepe: That’s not entirely true. It’s not exactly clear how it will work, but everything won’t be supporter-only.
@mellon-charles: I understand your worries, but I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. The CHPP is very limited both in terms of what I’m allowed to do, and what is possible to do. HT is very motivated for this, so it should be no problem at all for me to do what I want :)
(Sep 15, 10:29 AM)
That’s the part I don’t like it: “Unfortunately … the Alltid site will disappear over time” :(
(Sep 15, 10:36 AM)
This sounds great!
I guess you are looking forward to been able to access the HT data directly :-)
Good luck as HT-weird_ed and we are really looking forward to the implementations yet to come.
(Sep 15, 10:37 AM)
Congrats! Now looking forward to the actual transition. Best of luck with the job ahead :)
(Sep 15, 10:39 AM)
My congratulation mate!
You do a great and wonderfull work .. hattrick with alltid will be better ..
Greetings from Italy
Wyrd
(Sep 15, 10:41 AM)
hmm, I don’t know… I just don’t like the idea of alltid losing its independence to hattrick…
I don’t care about HT supporter 6 months extension… I became a + member to support you as I could!
I hope your way of working will infect HTs. THAT will be gr8!
may the force be with you
(Sep 15, 10:52 AM)
Congratulations, HT-weird_ed ;)
Your work deserves the Hattrick recognition, and I hope w’ll have great statistics in the future.
The only thing that worries me is that you haven’t yet answered what will happen to Maptrick. Will this project be abandonned by you, or there’s still hope for us?
Keep the great work ;)
(Sep 15, 11:15 AM)
I think some parts of Maptrick will make sense to have on Hattrick, and will work even better than they would on a separate site. But some features, particularly flagchaser tools, might not be proper to implement there. It’s difficult to answer because we haven’t talked about it in detail yet.
However, there are others who will take over the parts which we can’t implement, so no worries :)
(Sep 15, 11:18 AM)
Somehow great. And congratulations to you personally.
Anyway, it doesnt bother me about costs, cause i’m supporter in both…
BUT: little worries about the quality i have… – when i just compare, what YOU did the last years, how huge, how much quality, how (very!) helpful (thanks a lot!!), and compare it to what HT’s did last years (sdgfskdk äääsdiii LL öö sm :-)) ) ... i really hope, that the loss of independence and (surely!) loss of some of your “how-to-do’s” will on the other hand little improve the way how HT’s do their job ;-p
if not… i will cry for alltid
(Sep 15, 11:28 AM)
Congrats Alltid with this major milestone. Looking forward to the integration.
cheers
(Sep 15, 11:30 AM)
Congrats and thumbs up for to offering to compensate for the Alltid plus membership. Keep the good quality up. Looking forward to more cool stuff to come. Maptrick, Tomattrick and FoxTrick are some directions I am thinking of….
(Sep 15, 12:42 PM)
Congratulations weird_ed! This is very good news! I suppose that when the integration is finished the import of the data wont be needed and stats will be updated almost inmediatly after the end of the matches. Is this correct?
Weird_ed: Congratulations man…I’m very sure you are happy about this, cause your work has finally payed off
(Sep 15, 01:22 PM)
Superb!
I will miss this site, but am happy that you will be part of the Hattrick team. This bods well, that some of your design/presentation skills will catapult Hattrick in the next century :)
Actually 6 months suppo is ok, but then we lose our crowns! How to get same prestige that we had from Alltid Plus-membership?!?
(Sep 15, 01:29 PM)
Congratulations!!!!
Jababadadadoe!!!!!!!
This is why i support you,
Grts,& Suc6
Eric
(Sep 15, 01:36 PM)
Congratulations!!
Enjoy the experience, you deserve it!!
Great job and good luck!
(Sep 15, 01:48 PM)
Congratulation! It’s the natural progression of hard work!
I’m happy for you ;)
(Sep 15, 01:51 PM)
Congrats!
The accolade for years of hard an excellent work.
Even if i bought alltid-plus to support your amazing project (okay, being able to use your superb FF-plugin was as well an good reason :), i can easily live with that 6 month ht-supporter package; a fair deal i my opinion.
(Sep 15, 02:38 PM)
i guess this is the ultimate dream come true for every CHPP programmer. And it is totally deserved. I hope they will still give you maximally free hands though, as you have proven to work greatly if you can choose what to do yourselv. Any way: Congrats.
(Sep 15, 03:15 PM)
Big congratulations Ed! I agree with the comments that it is great that the official HT-staff finally has recognized all of the hard work that has gone into Alltid. I’m sure this will turn out great and will provide a fantastic consumer value to all of the users of Hattrick.
Again, congrats!
wow…
fantastic…
thats a great honour for a great side!
Respect!
Ndee aka van Vossen
Congratulations, this is recognition of the amazing work you have done here.
Felicidades!!!
I hope you will be in charge so we can be sure Alltid will always be what it is: The Best!!
Best regards.
(Sep 15, 04:11 PM)
As I don’t want to pay supporter for Hattrick because the HT’s were really bad in communication (= announcing changes,reacting to game developments, reported bugs in tactics, ...) and implementing changes (bugs) and I wanted to wait for a year or two if they become more reliable, this development is a bitter pill for me.
Congrats to weird_ed, who did a good job. But this is a pity for all managers playing HT without paying supporter. :(
(Sep 15, 04:46 PM)
Great news. It’ll be great to see such a significant improvement to our HT experience. But I’ll be sad to see alltid disappear.
(Sep 15, 04:56 PM)
Great news! I’m happy for you :-) However, will you become a HT’er? Are you hired by Hattrick Ltd? I mean, is this your new full time job?
(Sep 15, 05:13 PM)
Gratz on your new job mate :D Hope everything turnes out nice..but why shouldn’t it, Alltid is the best site for stats!
(Sep 15, 05:24 PM)
Congratulations! I love statistics and alltid AND hattrick! A dream come true.
Very cool and congratulations Mister!
But, what about the Alltid Hattrick Plus Cup?! :-)
(Sep 15, 06:58 PM)
Congratulations … I think :-)
The marriage is a great one but am not sure who the winner is, I hope you are as your work has been nothing less that superb.
(Sep 15, 07:10 PM)
This is sure a great development chance for Hattrick. Hoping will not become a deadly poison for Alltid.
Alltid is a wonderful site, and at today’s status I’m not sure that Hattrick site is good enough in order to support all the huge work you’ve done. Perhaps NEVER will be.
Why there’s the need to kill Alltid site? Why isn’t possible a marriage keeping on the two sites and the Alltid plugin for Firefox?
Very worried. It will be terrible if your huge work will be dismantled.
Congratulations, w_e !
Maybe you can convince them to hire the guys that do LiveFox, to replace that piece of crap embedded “live viewer” they have now.
(Sep 15, 09:48 PM)
congratulations for having your hard work recognized, and the PLUS solution seems reasonable.
(Sep 15, 11:03 PM)
grats ed, and as far as I’m concerned the trade-off is ok, especially since it means more and better stuff.
Thank you for your amazing work and your rare dedication. :)
(Sep 16, 12:19 AM)
congratulations for your work which is honored today …
hope it will always be the best stats available for hattrick …
(Sep 16, 12:49 AM)
Well done and good luck with this. Being both an Alltid plus and a Hattrick supporter, this will have little impact on myself. But it is an interesting development from the perspective of Hattrick being “free” to play. I think Alltid has been one of the tools (there are obviously others) that have enabled people to play Hattrick successfully without paying for supporter. It’s interesting to see that they want to integrate Alltid to Hattrick and make at least some (I would suspect most) of the stats available only for supporters. From the Hattrick perspective it’s obviously in their interest to continue maintain the image of a “free” game, while making paying supporter a effective requirement for playing the game in the longer term. It will be interesting to see how this develops in the future, PsicoTSI next?
But again, congrats and let’s hope you can bring some life to the HT teams development efforts.
(Sep 16, 11:52 AM)
So when can we expect a new HT in the HT team… HT-ed is his name or it was HT-weird i dunno :P
(Sep 16, 12:09 PM)
6 month HT supporter.??
we paid alltid on a one-time-deal..
the words as i remember when i ordered..: alltid for life..
that’s a bad deal for us..
anyway i think the integration with hattrick will be a good thing..
.
(Sep 16, 03:17 PM)
Alltid for life cost about 10€, and HT supporter for 6 months costs 15.5€, so I guess it’s a great deal for you since you used alltid for several days, months or even years and you still have 6 months for free as HT supporter!
Anyway, congratulations to Ed for this, I hope you do a great job in hattrick like you have been doing here for years.
Best regards and wishes of good luck from Portugal!
Ed, congrats from me, from Holland.
I think it is great for hattrick. But some are
going to change, the cups for example. I think there
will be one other cup next year and then it is over.
I wish you all the best of luck.
Thank you for all the hard work you have done.
All the very best for the future. Bon chance!!
Daveafl
(Sep 16, 07:05 PM)
Wow, price for Alltid supporting was 9,95€ and value of 6-months HT supporters is about 15,50€... this means we earned 5,55€ :-)
Thanks for the good deal, and of course thanks for alltid!
(Sep 16, 08:54 PM)
If the site desapears all of the non suporters will loose the ability to check statistics. Its a way to make people become a paying hattrick suporter. Its a great deal for weird_ed that i’m sure is gooing to be paid for letting hattrick take over its site and we get a litle more poor by loosing this site.
Please read the Global Thread! Only some stats will only be for supporters… Not every single one!
Plus I’m guessing this will mainly be the supa-dupa new stuff ed is teasing us with.
(Sep 17, 02:50 AM)
Great idea!
But I have to make one comment. If Hattrick was down due to scheduled work or due to server breakdown or other stupid things, it was possible to browse through the world of alltid and other Hattrick-related pages, so one could prepare for the next opponent and so on. I guess these days are over now. But this must be the drawback if you integrate a product that works into a product that doesn`t ;-)
Btw: Couldn`t you afford taking over Hattrick and integrate it into alltid???
(Sep 17, 07:44 AM)
thx a lot weird! hopefully the quality will be the same like we have it already nowadays.
congratulations!
(Sep 17, 08:38 AM)
Congrats,
But…
When I bought the Alltid subscription (1 month ago) it was because it was a one time fee (for life). This is because I don’t like timely subscriptions. I really feel “deceived” with this deal beacuase HT Supporter is not a one time fee.
Here’s a proposition: Make a new kind of HT Supporter (HT-Alltid-Suporter) that can have access only to the Alltid functionalities (within Hattrick) for life.
(Sep 17, 12:15 PM)
Congratulations weird_ed!!!
I can imagine how psyched you must be, and I am very happy that you finally see your work pay off.
Unfortunately i believe that for non-supporters this will in end be a step back as surely the HT’s will be using your stats as a way to incourage new HT supporters, and a way to keep there actual ones (that in a general way were in need of a supporter pack evolution like this will be).
Congrat’s to you, pitty about alltid dissapearing and i hope you take the quality we’re used to here to HT.
Thanks for all(tid).
A good deal for good work! It’s yours!
Good luck man
Grtz
Arvid Super Scorers
congratulations
I am curious to see how things will be when fully implemented:P
(Sep 18, 10:34 AM)
Congratz and well done weird_ed.
What u deserve is what u get…Alltid rocks :D
Great statistic in a great game, no extension needed and a 6 month supporter for the plus member is a very good deal.
(Sep 18, 06:18 PM)
Congrats Weird-ed.
However my question is, will there still be the Alltid Cups?
(Sep 18, 09:16 PM)
Congratulations Weird-ed! An amazing achievement! You must be very proud.
(Sep 19, 06:22 AM)
Alltid gave me the opportunity to make some good performances with my team. Before that, i had a lot off little papers hanging everywhere around my desk.
Congratulations Ed
(Sep 19, 07:25 AM)
Congratulations for you personally, so that you get payed for the work that you do…
For me as customer I would like to have the great lifetime key of Alltid with all the great data available then the 6 month of HT-supporter..
(Sep 19, 08:43 AM)
“Hattrick has agreed to compensate all of the current Plus members with a 6 month HT supporter option once we’ve finished the transition. I think this is a pretty good deal, and I hope it’s an acceptable solution for all of you.”
I think a good solution, I hope it is for you too. The site has more value to Hattrick with all the statistics, I am sure that you contribute to improve HT. Good Jobs.
P.S.: sorry my bad English.
(Sep 19, 04:44 PM)
Not a bad comment on the page. I think it shows the gratitude that the fans of Alltid have for the service you gave and that the Hattrick Community is great to be part of.
I’m sure the new job will be a very exciting place to work. Can wait to see what you guys come up with.
Congrats.
Mick
the Hattrick-crew made a very wise decission!
Mabye you can create an alltid-version for the youthteams too ;-)
(Sep 20, 09:52 AM)
Very, very cool! I was always amazed that Hattrick did not knock on your door sooner! Well done!
(Sep 21, 08:27 AM)
Congratulations!! Good work and good luck!! Vomero Naples President
Congratulations to weird_ed on his personal success. Too bad most of its options will be a feature only for Hattrick supporters. As it as announced in Hattrick today player’s match history will be supporter-only, but most of the other functions probably end up this way too. That’s sad because Alltid was a huge help for the occasional players.
Indeed nothing will be added to the non-supporter player page as announced by Hattrick (and by Adalbert_Wichura’s post)... probably only a new graphic page… but weird_ed if you now have voice in the hacktrick team please ask (at least) to keep match history for free. Thanks anyway, BTW I’m sure another free tool will appear if not in ALLTID/HT.
(Sep 23, 06:47 PM)
I’ll be sorry to lose this excellent FREE information.
Might actually have to put my money where my mouth is for a change.
This is a great idea:
“Btw: Couldn`t you afford taking over Hattrick and integrate it into alltid???”
I’d spend my time helping with Alltid, as I did so far, translating the site to brazilian portuguese, but not for Hattrick. I really didn’t like this news. Alltid was the kind of thing that made the “the best things in life are free” true.
I am sorry about this integration, as a HT user.
Anyway, it must be a great step for weird_ed! Congrats, man!
(Sep 28, 03:18 PM)
Firstly: I absolutely applaud your wisdom and Hattrick’s wisdom.
You deserve whatever good rewards you get and continue to gain by taking Altid into Hattrick. Your service to the HT world has been immense, and I hope it has brought you as much fun as you have provided for others. I hope it continues to be enjoyable for you.
That said, Alltid was a “large planet” in the HT solar system. As the result of others [losing interest|lacking resources|whatever] many “smaller planets” gravitated into Alltid’s orbit.
Maptrick and NT-DB are two that interest me … Foxtrick flags was another (? I am less familiar with this). I’m sure there were others I have not mentioned.
CHPP applications came about because there were things that were not part of Hattricks “core business”; but those things were of interest to the HT community and various clever people put things together as “shareware” that HT itself could not possibly justify developing.
I have no doubt they put CHPP on hold a few years ago because they wanted to focus on “core business”.
Now Alltid has become “core business”: congratulations. But there must be things that “wierd_ed” was prepared to [look at|host|support] that “HT-wierd_ed” cannot justify supporting.
This is entirely appropriate, and I intend no criticism.
But the question I have is this:
are there things that “wierd_ed” [is willing to|needs to|wants to] pass on to others in the HT community?
I understand that HT has frozen CHPP. But “weird_ed” -> “HT-wierd_ed” takes a number of CHPP apps with him.
HT may be happy for them to be orphans, even if “wierd_ed” may not be. I do not wish to embarrass you in any way.
But I am certainly interested in keeping NT-DB alive; and I am also interested in restoring Maptrick if that is possible. There may be others such as myself who are willing to pitch in and add resources to this effort.
If you are able to shed any light on this situation I think the HT community will be pleased. If not, I think we will all understand.
(Sep 29, 02:42 AM)
First of all congratulations. Secondly, I regret to inform you I am not interested in Ht Supporter (even for 6 years, not 6 months), in case any Alltid features will be available for Ht Supporters only, I regret to tell you I will ask for a full refund…
(Oct 2, 10:24 AM)
I share some fears with those others:
1) Is hattrick incorporating this site to make HT supportership more attractive by locking some of the cool features and infos this site provides to supportership access only?!?
2) What about the pormotions table for instance: since HT wasn’t able to provide the promotions/relegations changes earlier than “right before” the next season’s start and Alltid could, what about if Alltid gets incorporated? Will the benefits remain?
I guess everyone is getting the point, I guess if those features of free access to statistics will be locked there will be clones of this site with the only disadvantage of not having been able to collect as much formerly data…
Yet I’m truely happy for you that your work pays off – well done :)
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